This week on Virtually Speaking Sundays, Stuart Zechman and Joan McCarter (mcjoan) talked about what's really going on with the government shut-down and why the "Tea Party vs. Responsible Republicans" narrative is entirely false, and also about how the much more serious problems with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are exposed by the problems people are having right now with trying to sign up.
You can stream it or download the podcast at that link.
*By "real people", I mean people who are not rich celebrity journalists and political operatives. You know, the kind who have to worry about having a job, paying their bills, being able to afford health care. People who are not paid large sums of money to lie to the public.