What's really going on?

Much as I love Culture of Truth and his "Most Ridiculous Thing on This Week's Sunday Talk Shows" segment, I think Jay's posts here every week fall down by never pointing out that the "exegesis" is really just a five-minute clip from an hour-long show in which real people* try to figure out what's really going on, and those real people provide a much smarter take on it than you're likely to hear or read pretty much anywhere.

This week on Virtually Speaking Sundays, Stuart Zechman and Joan McCarter (mcjoan) talked about what's really going on with the government shut-down and why the "Tea Party vs. Responsible Republicans" narrative is entirely false, and also about how the much more serious problems with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are exposed by the problems people are having right now with trying to sign up.

You can stream it or download the podcast at that link.

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*By "real people", I mean people who are not rich celebrity journalists and political operatives. You know, the kind who have to worry about having a job, paying their bills, being able to afford health care. People who are not paid large sums of money to lie to the public.